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	<title>Comments on: Geotag Icon</title>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sean - have any prototypes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sean &#8211; have any prototypes?</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Gillies</title>
		<link>http://highearthorbit.com/geotag-icon/comment-page-1/#comment-165359</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Gillies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 18:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew, you forgot the &quot;DublinCore Inside&quot; and &quot;Powered by ISO 19115&quot; tags ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew, you forgot the &#8220;DublinCore Inside&#8221; and &#8220;Powered by ISO 19115&#8243; tags <img src='http://highearthorbit.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 15:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing your thoughts Andrew. The guidelines are not set in stone and &lt;em&gt;should&lt;/em&gt; evolve to represent the general opinion of the geotagging community.

This issue of an icon representing a concept vs specificity for one or more file formats is actually rather interesting. As you know the &quot;mission&quot; of the Geotag Icon is first and foremost to improve the current poor state of recognition of online geotagged content. To do this it has to be readily identifiable &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; format-agnostic; it deliberately does not attempt to differentiate KML from GeoRSS or GPX from geo on the basis of inter-operability, capability, or ultimate usage. It&#039;s there to establish a visual link between a set of geospatial coordinates and a document, pure and simple.

My own take, that the majority of users prefer format transparency is in fact reinforced by your own assertion here&#8212;namely that when confronted with a video you don&#039;t care what container format it&#039;s in; you just want to know that you can play it. Likewise, when presented with geotagged content&#8212;whether encoded by means of metadata, microformats, EXIF-GPS, etc&#8212;typical users just want to know that they can plot the position on a map. 

I accept that lumping together a bunch of XML derivates and other geodata syntaxes is artificial. As they currently stand the usage guidelines reflect a real-world compromise: we rub the purists the wrong way but at the same time by &quot;keeping it simple&quot; help make a much greater section of the online community aware of the concept and utility of geotagging. I happen to think that&#039;s a compromise worth making.

If there are further views concerning the breadth of the usage guidelines, and in particular suggestions for refining them in such a way as to accommodate all (OK, most) parties, I hope your readers will post them here or get in touch with the Project directly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing your thoughts Andrew. The guidelines are not set in stone and <em>should</em> evolve to represent the general opinion of the geotagging community.</p>
<p>This issue of an icon representing a concept vs specificity for one or more file formats is actually rather interesting. As you know the &#8220;mission&#8221; of the Geotag Icon is first and foremost to improve the current poor state of recognition of online geotagged content. To do this it has to be readily identifiable <em>and</em> format-agnostic; it deliberately does not attempt to differentiate KML from GeoRSS or GPX from geo on the basis of inter-operability, capability, or ultimate usage. It&#8217;s there to establish a visual link between a set of geospatial coordinates and a document, pure and simple.</p>
<p>My own take, that the majority of users prefer format transparency is in fact reinforced by your own assertion here&mdash;namely that when confronted with a video you don&#8217;t care what container format it&#8217;s in; you just want to know that you can play it. Likewise, when presented with geotagged content&mdash;whether encoded by means of metadata, microformats, EXIF-GPS, etc&mdash;typical users just want to know that they can plot the position on a map. </p>
<p>I accept that lumping together a bunch of XML derivates and other geodata syntaxes is artificial. As they currently stand the usage guidelines reflect a real-world compromise: we rub the purists the wrong way but at the same time by &#8220;keeping it simple&#8221; help make a much greater section of the online community aware of the concept and utility of geotagging. I happen to think that&#8217;s a compromise worth making.</p>
<p>If there are further views concerning the breadth of the usage guidelines, and in particular suggestions for refining them in such a way as to accommodate all (OK, most) parties, I hope your readers will post them here or get in touch with the Project directly.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://highearthorbit.com/geotag-icon/comment-page-1/#comment-164814</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 09:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can concede you have a point where the use would impinge upon other formats - i.e. the feed - we had already discussed and rejected a use that would cause confusion as regards the KML icon.

I think the analogy with Share this is fine - indeed we are also working on that, and the &lt;a href=&quot;http://shareaholic.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Shareaholic&lt;/a&gt; extension should soon sport the new generic share icon, also there are indications that iBegin&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://labs.ibegin.com/share/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Share WP plugin&lt;/a&gt; will sport the new Open Share Icon in due course.

The use of an icon to signify the presence of &quot;geo&quot; information within a page -  it&#039;s use as an &quot;indicator&quot; within plugins and extensions such as the Minimap Sidebar - sits well with me. Another pertinent example is the iCab browser. Each of these examples may or may not well have &quot;child&quot; icons for individual functions, indeed iCab&#039;s developer has said as much, and why not? The universally accepted feed icon has found it&#039;s way to encompass both rss and atom and the Open Share icon is heading that way. (I take your reference to the very narrow opportunities for a Time and Titletag as I&#039;m sure it was intended, tongue-in-cheek ;) )

It is early days in the life of both icons and this type of constructive criticism is most welcome, it can only help to hone an easily recognised web presence, representing a category of functions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can concede you have a point where the use would impinge upon other formats &#8211; i.e. the feed &#8211; we had already discussed and rejected a use that would cause confusion as regards the KML icon.</p>
<p>I think the analogy with Share this is fine &#8211; indeed we are also working on that, and the <a href="http://shareaholic.com/" rel="nofollow">Shareaholic</a> extension should soon sport the new generic share icon, also there are indications that iBegin&#8217;s <a href="http://labs.ibegin.com/share/" rel="nofollow">Share WP plugin</a> will sport the new Open Share Icon in due course.</p>
<p>The use of an icon to signify the presence of &#8220;geo&#8221; information within a page &#8211;  it&#8217;s use as an &#8220;indicator&#8221; within plugins and extensions such as the Minimap Sidebar &#8211; sits well with me. Another pertinent example is the iCab browser. Each of these examples may or may not well have &#8220;child&#8221; icons for individual functions, indeed iCab&#8217;s developer has said as much, and why not? The universally accepted feed icon has found it&#8217;s way to encompass both rss and atom and the Open Share icon is heading that way. (I take your reference to the very narrow opportunities for a Time and Titletag as I&#8217;m sure it was intended, tongue-in-cheek <img src='http://highearthorbit.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
<p>It is early days in the life of both icons and this type of constructive criticism is most welcome, it can only help to hone an easily recognised web presence, representing a category of functions.</p>
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